Sunday, January 15, 2006
What to do if your Palm with NVFS one day does not start…
This information will save an attack of nerves more than one. I myself have gone through something similar: I installed UMDH in my Tungsten E2, after several days of use without problems, in a reset the PDA does not start. Salo PALM logo and then, a ROD flashing white background in black, and hence no longer happening. For many things that I tried, I was not able to fix it by any means. Having NVFS, to stop the battery information is not lost. So expect to be emptied was not a solution. Or so I thought ...
My E2 was under warranty, so I took her to the store where purchased and sent to U.S. to fix. In the end, should not be capable of and I sent my E2 with all the new circuitry, the casing was only the original. The after-sales service Palm gave me very good image, the truth. But I was without it for a whole month while the arrangement, when a month ago just buy it.
The same happened to me with UMDH can happen to overclock the CPU over their posibildades, and surely there will be more ways that Palm is dead. With older models, hoping to completely deplete the battery, we produced erase the memory, and remaining in the state that comes from factory, ie running. But models with NVFS use flash memory, so even if po remain without battery is not lost information (in fact this is their main advantage). So does the only option is to send technical service?
It turns out to be none. I have read the case of a person who managed to repair it. And the conclusion is that while the Palm with NVFS maintain data in flash memory while the battery runs out, there is another part of the RAM memory that is normal, and that if we hope for an end to the battery, also lost data, Palm and re-boot. This whole issue of different types of memory, as explained in this post, so to better understand why this solution have the necessary information.
This is an excerpt of the thread of the forum. Those who are in the same problem, and want to know all the details, they can read it here whole.
I pressed the reset button, and the screen turned off, as usually when I reset.
But then I waited, and it did not come back on! It did not reset. And now my palm is totally unresponsive. No number of resetting would get it to turn back on. Nothing .. Sad
The only response I get is when I plug in the USB cable, only to get a message from windows "USB Device Not Recognized. One of the USB devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned, and Windows does not recognize it."
And here is the part you're all waiting for ... it's a Tungsten E2!
[...]
So, I did not call Palm support.
I left my dear palm alone for six days. So, I just tried to turn it on and reset and got nothing. Also, connecting the hotsync cable no longer gave me an error on my PC, so I decided the battery was drained for sure.
I connected the HotSync cable and the charge cable ... and in a couple seconds, the screen turned Exclamation ON SUCH a relief after I was sure my palm was dead. It turned on without me even pushing anything. Dmitry Thank you so much for guiding me through it while I was hysterical.
Something odd though: When it came on, I saw that warpspeed was still there on the ram (no memory card inserted). I thought when the battery ran out the ram was cleared? Anyways, did a hard reset, and I'll wait for more testing to be done on warpspeed on the E2 before trying it again.
Summary of the final solution:
- Allow the battery drains completely. This may take about 6 days.
- To check whether cargo is still, connect the PDA to the computer with the USB cable. If the computer detects it, it has not yet been completely emptied the battery.
- When no longer detected, RAM will be erased, and with it the programme / configuration preventing our Palm boot.
- Connect the USB cable and the power to the Palm. This after a while, should boot normally.
- Clear causing the problem.
If someone looks at this situation, and this method work for you, please confirm this in the comments. The same holds true for any doubts that you may have.
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By: Mark Gonzalez Troyas in Tricks
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Salu2.
So I just go through the Mismi, except that my Palma (T | 5) is completely dead, he reseseteado thousand times and nothing at all, in fact proved happily version 3.0 of the pxa clock when everything happened, in fact was underclockeando , Y. The had loaded 100% when passing, so I guess I can only wait. Try to make a warm reset, but not even notice the bloody logo, and equal continuous function without… Carajo, well, I think this is still within the warranty for a couple of months more, so I will wait six days, and seeing that passes. Incidentally, the probe usb (in my desperate) pressing the HotSync button, but not step anything (I have Windows ME). in order apreciaria any suggestion of joy kills me not to leave it for 1 month.
Ah, indeed, committed the imprudence of not erase the warpspeed, who had previously installed at its test version! Je, I suppose it had something to do, although it was not "switched on".
Health!
This alive :-)!!
Well, after a long waiting time has finally returned from the underworld!
Well, nothing that I logged on (only the power cord) and I have waited a few seconds and endless… and as if by magic has been restarted by itself! Finally, although in my case the palm was not detected, nor by the PC (Win ME) or by a pair of Laps with XP, so I could not take it as an indicator to know the level of the battery. Finally, there is more to add, if they pass just a matter of patience!
Health!
Secure your comment that gives hope to more than one. As you say, is only a matter of patience
Como no LEI POST THIS BEFORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jejejeje
Hello people, I am counting my experience, if someone serves.
I bought a Tungsten E2 with Wifi recently within 3 months, was tested and I had to synchronize branded, entocnes took the bad decision reset…. What happened?, Was nailed on the logo of "Palm" and not leaving there (for more hard-reset to make).
The first is wise to leave without battery to return everything to its factory state, that I tried until they shut down the screen, I tried not to the 6-day comment you, so it did not work (also reset as 1500 Sometimes, of despair that he had already had purchased 1 week ago).
I called for service and told me that connect the camble synchronization and power and repeat the hard-reset. I did it and nothing happens. Then the staff of Palm, told me that send to your Central in Buenos Aires (I'm from Argentina). I did and took 1 month and 2 days to reach my house a team entirely "new".
Why the quotes? Because it was not new…. The pencil was leaving his place when the palm is inclined, had scratches on your screen and carcasses. So I called again to serve as technical and do not have stock Book !!!!!!! (Animals !!!!!) I can facilitate another new device, as it had in the beginning, so I have to wait until stock alla to send back to Buenos Aires (I am in Cordova) and I send a new (but truly new!). jejejeje
So ke good, ahroa this palm, going so good, but it does not seem very new to say, one of the boys technical support told me that the missing magnet is housed in pora pencil and scratch it by sending (jejejeje )
Well, council……. try to do everything possible to NOT send a replacement. I do not recommend.
Clarification: The share of soft walks perfect.
Thanks for the space.
Javier
Because I'm in the same situation but will have to wait a few days and then I hope I shall comment on them as you work
hears a question before making particularly when you mention the passage connecting the usb and cargo, usb must be connected to the computer like at the other end?, and when you turn on the palm do not need to type anything?, should only enter ? please excuse before hand and what happens is that I do not want and watering is that I have spent time with that line flashing that does not fall and stays in the logo powered, thanks in advance
Excellent!, I used UDMH 5.3 and Warpspeed, for a while already, and I have not had problems in my TX (except the super-warming that is after a few minutes of play in LJP), and I always had this fear that was dead because he had read many times that Palm were unserviceable. Now that is no solution, I am more relaxed