Thursday, 16 of March of 2006
Support for memory cards of more of 2Gb
It already does some time was in this entrance the compatibility of the Palm with cards SD about more 1Gb, and in relation to this it exists a program of Dimitry Grinberg that eliminates some limitations of the less recent models. But before speaking of him, I am going to explain which are the causes of these problems with cards of great capacity.
Cards SD, like the hard disks or the diskettes, have to have their space of storage distributed with a certain “format” (of the word to format there) to be able to keep data in them. Many file systems exist (formats) like are FAT, NTFS, and outside the world Windows EXT2, EXT3, ReiserFS, XFS, JFS and more than I have not tried. Nevertheless, the format used normally in cards SD is solely FAT (File Allocation Table).
FAT has in fact variant, according to the bits that use to direccionar the files. Although FAT12 was first, FAT16 is the one that has lasted to the present time. He is the one that used the MSDOS and at the moment still it is used in cards SD. The problem is in which the maximum size of a system of files FAT16 is of 1Gb (although other 2 sources even say that and 4Gb). Over this maximum size, we have to use FAT32, and here the problem comes: the Palm previous to the Lifedrive only supports FAT16 (to exception it seems to be of the T5). The conclusion is that these apparatuses will not recognize a card SD of 4Gb or more. The Palm that yes can use these greater cards, is T5? , Lifedrive, T|Later Xs and, since they bring installed to driver for FAT32.
We must be resigned to at the most use cards of 1 or 2Gb in our Palm? Then apparently no. As it said at the beginning of this post, Dimitry has extracted driver for FAT32 of the Lifedrive, it has modified and it so that it can work in another Palm older. Its unloading is gratuitous, and you can unload puncturing here it directly.
This program is gratuitous, but it does not guarantee anything either: in models of Palm it will work and in another no, it is question to try. By Internet the experiences of other users with this subject can be found. Thus it seems that Tungsten supports it to T3, when without these drivers, only could use cards of 2Gb at the most, and to only read them. Also it happens that, when using FAT32 chunk larger that FAT16, the access to the card is faster, to sizes still supported without driver. This still more makes interesting try this to driver. It is more, a better general design of driver seems to be the cause that the cards formatted with FAT16 tanbién read more express.
From driver of Dimitry, and with a little more hackeo, also one has obtained that a card of 1Gb works in a Zodiac. They speak of it in this forum and the file is here for unloading. The same seems to have done, but for Treo 650, although this already requires to make a ROM customized, with the risk that it entails. For the users of a UX it also seems to have a specific version.
A warning for navigators. Taken care of much with formatting with FAT32 unique card SD that you have, and soon doing hard reset. You consider that, when doing this reset, flock everything what you have installed in the Palm including driver, so until you do not return it to install, you will not be able to read that card again. And finally: in order to install these drivers we must copy the first file to the memory card, and there to the ram. To do hotsync direct to the ram will not work. Luck with the tests.
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Thus it is, from the T5 supports to cards of 2gb maximums. hopefully these memories empiezen to lower of price… almost are worth half than palm! : s
by the way, the PAdict program is brilliant for which we are studying Japanese. salu2
Hello Carlos,
the memories of Palm have guarantee to work or in the Palm, but I use a normal one of Kingston of 512Mb and goes equal of or. If you can prove it first, is a good option to buy one of normal mark.
With respect to the PAdict it is a program that recommended Israel in ZonaPDA, I cannot remain I with his credit
Greetings. If somebody had patience and servicialidad to explain to me step by step how to modify the ROM of Treo 650 to incorporate the FAT32, since I was inicianto the process but it gave fear me because I read that an error can damage the Treo650 permanently. Perhaps somebody has done that it successfully can share with me the process step by step. Perhaps it can write to me to the E-Mai on the matter: melvinru@ racsa.co.cr
Beforehand, THOUSAND THANKS.
Excellent… I do not have a card of 1GB that way but I believe that perhaps it is worth the pain to install it for the moment at which one arrives at my hands…
Aid please! Then I have copied the patch to the PDA as she is indicated, I have a Zire 31 and after putting the card of 2GB she follows without recognizing it and therefore I cannot format it. What is necessary to do exactly? Thanks.
Little more I can decirte. To the people who work to him it seems that with copying it to the Palm already it is enough. To that not like and my E2, it does not seem to have adjustment. It is only question of the model. Surely Zire 31 is not compatible.
There is an option, that is to change to certain attributes of the file using for example the manager of Filez archives:
- To change “creator YOU GO” to the value that has file FATFS.
- To change “version YOU GO” to the value that has file FATFS.
- To activate the attribute “Backup” as it is file FATFS.
And perhaps to renombrar the file that you finish installing to FATFS, to supplant the original one.
The explanation is at the end of this page:
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88022
Thank you very much Marks. It follows without working to me but the intention is what counts:), by the sight model 31 is not compatible with the patch. I have a card of 2Gb and I cannot use it, arggg.
Good, again thanks and enhorabuena by the Web!
It goes, I feel that it has not worked to you. it either did not work me in the E2, so at the moment I remain with the card of 512Mb that I have, that gives much of himself.
And thanks for the spirits
Marks… you know if the T3 can support to a SD Corsair 2GB 60x? Using this programilla?
In principle the T3 only supports until 1Gb:
http://www.pdatungsteno.com/2005/12/26/tarjeta-de-expansion-sd-de-2gb-de-palm/
Now I do not know if with drivers of Dimitry one of 2Gb will be able to be used. Here they say that they work in the T3:
http://www.pdaexpertos.com/foros/viewtopic.php?p=127935
but they do not say whereupon so large of card.
Law of end to end post… and PaTx said in another one post to me that this patch reads FAT32, that is leeria one of 2GB but it is not possible to be written… so slight thing… I believe that I am going to install the patch, to go to buy the SD of 2GB and to try to prove it before buying it… of another form iria by un1 of 1GB.
Thanks again Marks
I have one t5 and I have bought a memory of 1gb, but this seems not to be compatible since I do to him?
that so I have one zire 31, and buys one sd kingston of 2gb, of plane they are incompatible? , already the one of the patch tries and just nothing, help!
Then to seem the compatibility of our Palm's with great memory cards it is luck question, which I had with my tungsten and who reads 2 perfectly the kingston memory of gigas, whereas, for example, they tungsten E2 does not make nisiquiera the sound of notification that has introduced a card, something that is peculiar.
then I have a treo 650 with one sd markvision of 2 gb and works perfectly, I put one to him of 4gb recently but gb reads same the 2, only installs the programita of dymitri but it gives me like thing to go beyond, it gives fear me by some commentaries that there am leido approaches that it can damage palm, if some duck knows that to do and like, warns to me, kturro@hotmail.com
The truth is that for this of the PDAs I am ignorate enough, and for that reason I ask of favor that if somebody managed to beforehand make that the patch worked to be able to read cards in FAT32, that please has the amiability to explain to me step by step as it realised the process to know I am doing if it well, thanks for its patience
HOLAS TO ALL KISIERA KE SOMEBODY HELPS LOKE ME HAPPENS IS KE IO I HAVE A KAMARA OF MARKA NIKON COOLPIX AND YESTERDAY I APPEAR A PROBLEM THE KE STEP IS KE IO STABA SEEING TAKEN PHOTOS KE HABIA PREVIOUS DAYS AND IT EXTINGUISHES WHEN IT AND SOON THE VOLVI TO CATCH NO LONGER KERIA TO READ THE MEMORY ME SALIA A WARNING DICIENDOME THE MEMORY CANNOT BE USED BUT BY KE NO LONGER KERIA REKONOCER THE KAMARA HOPEFULLY ANYBODY CANNOT BE HELPED THE AGRADECERIA ME
Jhonatan, test with this program.
In the end it is not clear to me what it is possible to be done and what with one they do not tungsten E2…
It seems reason why I read in the commentaries that to modify driver do not serve to him don't mention it, but… a card of 1Gb would have at least to work without touching nothing? Although one is not able to overcome the barrier of giga, is worth the trouble to change that to driver because it improves the speed of access to the card?
Driver I have not proven it in the E2. Use a card of 1Gb and works perfectly. The one of 2Gb I imagine that without installing driver it will not recognize it completes.
Post of TamsPalm checks THIS, would leave the clear film you but. Greetings.
Thanks, in the end were to which I ended up yesterday arriving (to that post and also to your blog) after finding me with much contradictory information.
Driver DOES NOT WORK in one tungsten E2, in fact, I tried to install it and not even it recognizes my card of 512Mb (I did not try to format it in the PC to FAT32, but I suppose that it must it have also recognized in FAT16)
Thanks for the Magullu data
I did not prove it in my E2 because I do not have a card of more of 1Gb trying.
Fodder just as you, if it does not recognize a formatted card using FAT16, surely one with FAT32 is not either, but only question to try.
Hello I have a problem with my zire 31 the expandible of giga q buys to him not yet recognizes it not even does case to him what is the patch that I must use? porfa
hello to all, and been reading all the commentaries on palm, them story that I have a E2 and buys a 2 SD to me of gb by worried and it does not read it, so I say to them that those of 2 gb does not walk in the E2.
GREETINGS….
I have one palm tungsten c and he does not recognize sd of 2gb marks kingston exists some patch or alternative solution?
thanks
Hello please nesecito to make work one sd of 2 gb in my palm e2 if somebody knows of some method that warns to me matias_mirkin11@hotmail.com
The unique option drivers is these of which it is spoken in post of above, but is not confirmed that works in all the equipment.
I have one palm e2, I finish buying a memory of 1 gb, he marks panasonic, and not it Lee who I must do for being able to use it
Hello Luis, would have to read it, test to give format him from the Palm. He reads himself from another equipment?
Resmen: I can cause that a SD of 2gb works in my E2? somebody can help me?
Thanks
Omar Perea
in case it has not been clear you after reading the commentaries, the answer is: NO
Summary a little more detailed on my attempts here: http://lapitera.blogspot.com/2007/05/puedo-ponerle-una-tarjeta-sd-de-2gb-una.html
The E2 RECOGNIZES the SD 2GB! What they must do is this: 1º: to copy file “fat32 ″ to the memory of the card palm (of 512 or 128) and to copy it to the internal memory of palm there
2º to copy the file” E2 Internal Drive” to the internal memory of palm
3º resetean palm and VOILA!
(the archives fat32 and E2 Internal Drive encontrarn in this Link: http://palmpowerups.com/downloads.php?cat_id=2)
I hope works to him, I work myself! and my SD is Damages Elec
Thanks to this forum I could solve my problem!
Chausito
Salu2
Somebody knows if the solution of dimitry is used for tungsten C? then not if that patch of fat 32 is used for this and then before proving decidi to look for in Internet that experience habian on the matter had the users!
thank you very much.
hello! This message is for Veronica REUSMANN, or somebody with a E2 to which him Gb has worked a 2 SD of… SINCE YOU DID? I did the same, and nothing exactly! not even it makes the small noise of which I am inserting a Sd… I do not know if it will have something to see, but my SD is a KINGSTON, the standard of 2 Gb. I am wanted to kill man, I bought the SD of worried to take advantage of a supply, but it left the shot to me by the butt… last, for which it is in favor of Buenos Aires, we can make business… SALUDOTES! tomycabral@gmail.com ID612*1671 15-6095-7355
HELLO! …. MY QUESTION IS…. SOMEBODY KNOWS THAT TO DO FOR Q G. IN A PALM TREO 750 WORKS A CARD OF 8… Q THIS ALREADY CONTAINS THE PLATFORM WINDOWS MOBILE 5?
THANKS!
Hello! I also have done just like Veronica and has not worked for anything that method apparently DOES NOT SERVE!
I have listened to tungsten that it and with this 4 patch gb can read those of, has proven somebody it?
I have a Palm E2 that does not recognize my Kingstom card of 2 Gb which I can do
I have tested and the Trascend of 4GB (nonHC) in my T|X, and works perfectly
Hello, I have a Tungsten T5 that use with 2 cards of gigas without problems, but wanted to try to use 4 cards of gigas and I do not know if they work because they come in blister and I cannot problar them, Somebody knows if they work without no type of patch? , and if it is with patch, from where I can remove it? , the Link that there is at the beginning of the page on driver of Dimitri does not work. Thank you very much
I have palm Tungsten and, I was working and it with a kingston card of 2bg and it never gave nigun problem me, but lately I put all 4 crazy person to put one to him of gb, the case is that always he found 4gb sdhc and sd was a little laborious to find one me of 4gb, the joke is that if encontre, and when I only put me reconocia like 1700 mb more or less, in aim that lowers “FATFS.prc installs” it inmediatemente and it said to me that it was going to format the card did, it I take a little in the end but me reconcio the 3800 mb that recognized win to me. and if already perfect Lee. The card is (Power Silicone 80X SD 4GB) not if he will be chafa or but it does not work to me well.
ah and thanks for the FATFS.prc I work myself very well.
gustaria me that supported with my targeta of mini memory SD of 2 GB sandisk. he buys for a cellular telephone Sidekick III of the company t-mobile, the cellular one does not recognize and he says to me that the targeta does not have format and my PC recognizes if it, gustaria me who explained to me what is the reason, the cellular one has expansion slot of mini memory sd of up to 2 GB is urgent thanks to me
IF SOMEBODY QUESTION… IN PALM TREO 750 WORKS CARDS DE MAS OF 2GB? … THE ANSWER IS… IF IN AUTOMATIC IT RECOGNIZES THESE CARDS… AND IT WORKS VERY WELL…
AID I HAVE A TUNGSTEN/T THE ONE THAT STRETCHES AND IT BUYS A SD TO HIM OF 2 GB KINGSTONE BUT LEE DETECTS BUT NOT IT TO IT WHO I CAN DO
I have the Palm Tugsten E2 I cannot load videos card. Yes somebody can help me I thank for it beforehand.